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svachalek 6 hours ago [-]
`Geoffrey Challen, a computer scientist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, plans to offer a new course this fall in which he will teach students to develop software “without writing, reading, debugging, or viewing a single line of code,” he told me.`
This is "studying computer science" now? Vibe coding is easy and fun, but why spend 4 years and a small fortune to study it when practically anyone can pick it up over a weekend?
hyperhello 5 hours ago [-]
Computer Science without code is as worthless as literary study without reading. That curriculum is going to be torture.
layla5alive 3 hours ago [-]
Heh, I think you meant to say math. Plenty of theoretical CS is study of things like algorithms, which looks more like math proofs than code. But we can all agree that vibe coding has little to do with Computer Science. And if you're not touching or reviewing the code, little to do with anything resembling software engineering, either!
ninjalanternshk 4 hours ago [-]
I had an algorithms class in undergrad where we designed algorithms for computers with specific memory and processor configurations that didn’t exist, and specifically, would never be built.
But we studied algorithms for them anyway.
bwhiting2356 4 hours ago [-]
Teaching systems is useful. The worst vibe coding I've seen has been bad system design choices. But I agree that we should also still look at the code.
mikeweiss 5 hours ago [-]
You never really had to get a formal education in programming to be successful before AI either....
laughing_man 5 hours ago [-]
Companies are laying off experienced developers 10,000 at a time with no end in sight. It's pretty irresponsible to be telling people it's a good time to get a Computer Science degree.
qsxfthnkp2322 3 hours ago [-]
Agree. Ai has placed the writing on the wall. killed this as a profession. I wish it wasn’t true. I have 15 years experience in the industry.
Do not learn computer science these days. We all are f***
And I’m a guy who solidly believes in understanding the fundamentals.
hyperhello 3 hours ago [-]
AI coding wouldn't even be an idea if you engineers hadn't turned everything into a peyote nightmare of distributed nodes. Stable, reliable, well-thought-out, debugged libraries are what we need. Write them!
This is "studying computer science" now? Vibe coding is easy and fun, but why spend 4 years and a small fortune to study it when practically anyone can pick it up over a weekend?
But we studied algorithms for them anyway.
Do not learn computer science these days. We all are f***
And I’m a guy who solidly believes in understanding the fundamentals.